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 Charla Ilgner, jeweler, silversmith & art teacher?
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 07-08-2007 02:49 PM
  
June & I received this from a friend who found it at a flea market in NYC. The cup is about 2.5 - 3 inches high. We both feel we have seen the mark before but just can't place it. It is nicely done and has an interesting pedestal which is made of the letters O W G A. Before we go mad trying to remember, maybe someone here will have a better memory? Your help is appreciated. Thanks IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 07-08-2007 04:06 PM
Could it be Charla Ilgner, an accomplished jeweler, silversmith and art teacher? If my facts are correct, she was born in Sacramento, CA on 21 July 1906 and died in Humbolt, CA on 27 August 1997. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 07-08-2007).] IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 07-08-2007 05:28 PM
Thank you. It sounds right to me. I am pretty sure I have seen the mark before but I still can't figure out where. I have written to someone who may be her nephew. I hope they will reply with more information. I'll post what I learn. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 07-08-2007 06:08 PM
One of the things the initials O W G A could stand for is the Oregon Women Golfers Association. Of course there's a lot of other things that would work too. On second thought, it's probably too small for that. Oh well! [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 07-08-2007).] IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 07-08-2007 06:29 PM
I believe it is Maria Reigner (sp?), who worked in Gerogia in the mid 20th C. Looked at the right way, the first word above the mark does read Maria. She did a lot of work with these sorts of large block letters. I will see what else I can dig up about her. Great cup! Brent IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 07-08-2007 08:52 PM
quote: For what it's worth the topic "Modern Silver" posted 06-23-2006 11:23 PM has an example of a Maria Regnier mark in one the replies. (In the "Modern Silver" thread, see FredZ's post on 03-29-2007 at 11:48 AM ) IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 07-09-2007 09:25 AM
My guess is it by Charla Ilgner. The lettering is not quite the same quality of craftsmanship as the base and the cup which is very finished. Perhaps it was a craft show “while you wait” purchase. The cup and the base were done in advance and the lettering quickly done for a waiting customer who wanted the initials OWGA? IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 07-09-2007 11:09 AM
I too believe it is Charla Ilgner. I have just emailed her Great nephew to see if he has examples of her work and more indepth information by her. It would be nice to write an article of her and her work. Fred IP: Logged |
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agleopar Posts: 850 |
posted 07-10-2007 07:32 AM
The craft show idea is good but not easy for me to go along with! The time it takes to design, cut out and solder letters like these seem to have it done in the workshop... More likely this was a new idea/design and she had not refined it. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 07-10-2007 08:19 AM
Here is some fast and loose Internet research..... Charla Ilgner IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 07-10-2007 04:13 PM
I believe the Boone middle name is correct and Eleanor is Charla's older sister. Eleanor was born in 1905. Eleanor appears to be the grandmother of the Grandnephew who has been discussed in earlier in this thread. Eleanor Ilgner Brees died in San Francisco on 9 October 1994. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 07-10-2007).] IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 07-11-2007 06:41 AM
After my leaving school, oh so many years ago, I also count myself lucky enough to have had at least two influential instructors. I am very sure they have passed yet like Charla Ilgner not their lasting impressions. We saw a mention on the Internet of Charla Ilgner being a favorite instructor of Sue... We contacted Sue asking quote: Very promptly we got the following reply: quote: IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 07-14-2007 10:09 PM
We heard back from the Great Nephew.... quote: IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 09-15-2007 02:21 PM
Image provided by Charla's nephew IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 09-15-2007 06:23 PM
Scott, Thanks for contacting the relatives. It is great that we are preserving the history for the future. Fred IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 09-19-2007 09:55 PM
It is absolutely one of the greatest little modernist things I've ever seen. Never heard of Charla Ilgner before, but now I'm a fan. I've seen lots of really REALLY dumb silver trophy cups, but this is a jewel. Very Jensenesque in its simple hammered finish--but the OWGA idea is wonderfully done. Silversmiths at this period seemed to have been proud of and happy to do small pieces well. No need to be big back then. IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 05-15-2008 01:31 PM
I saw a handled sterling cup with a mounted cabachon on the handle at an antique mall in Tacoma, Washington by Ilgner. I regret that I did not have a camera. If anyone is interested I believe I can direct them to it. Fred IP: Logged |
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chicagosilver Posts: 227 |
posted 04-26-2014 08:46 PM
Two silverplate trophies by Ilgner, both heavy, and nicely made. They look sort of like the ones on the right ends of the two top shelves on the Charla circa 1040 photo above. [This message has been edited by Scott Martin (edited 01-22-2023).] IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 05-04-2014 05:46 PM
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 10-12-2015 05:31 PM
Every once in a while the internet yields yet another morsel of information. I found a listing of Champions who played at the Oregon Women's Golfers Association and in 1936 Charla Ilgner was a runners-up Champion. Fred IP: Logged |
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June Martin Forum Master Posts: 1332 |
posted 10-14-2015 10:11 PM
Thanks for adding another piece to the puzzle, Fred. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11526 |
posted 01-22-2023 12:24 AM
 [This message has been edited by Scott Martin (edited 01-22-2023).] IP: Logged |
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June Martin Forum Master Posts: 1332 |
posted 01-22-2023 07:59 PM
And an interesting article: [This message has been edited by June Martin (edited 01-22-2023).] IP: Logged |
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