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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 02-07-2016 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the Miami Show, a New Hampshire dealer sold us a very interesting arts & crafts bowl. It is very well made. When time permits I will post more photos.

As we made our way around the show, we shared our purchase with others asking if they knew who might be the maker. Most thought the mark in the center of the back/bottom of the bowl was the makers mark; others speculated it was a mono.

We are not sure if it is a mark or mono... nor are we certain about the initials. We suppose the initials might be OG or TOG or OTG or GTO.


Might anyone know what we have?

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2016 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has some resemblance to the known mark of Thomas Googerty. He was a very talented ornamental metalsmith. I have never seen a piece of silver by him, but we know he made some and you can find period photos of some of his pieces elsewhere. That would be my guess, since you say it is of very high quality. If it is his, it is a very nice find.

Brent

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 02-08-2016 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the suggestion.

I'm not familiar with the known mark for Thomas Googerty.

I don't understand why Thomas Googerty would use "OG" ? I would expect "TG" for Thomas Googerty.

From a recent auction:

    Wonderful, sterling silver hand hammered bowl with open loop handles
    It is marked "OG" and is possibly made by George Henry Trautmann (Chicago) or Thomas Francis Googerty (Pontiac, Il). This piece is spot chased on the interior and exterior. Engraved "V" on front. It is also dated on bottom "1939"

    Approx 9 3/4" across the handles, 2 1/2" tall to the top of the handle.

    Marked "OG Sterling".

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 02-08-2016 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this the mark you are referring to?

In the above mark I see "T F G".

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 02-08-2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting piece, Scott!

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iconnumber posted 02-08-2016 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting.... I think all these marks could be simply TG -- a graphic effort to incorporate the T into the G.

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Scott Martin
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Here is an article that I was going to extract but I know some of you enjoy metal work in general, so I included the entire newsletter.

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iconnumber posted 02-09-2016 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To: SM Publications - Silver Salon Forums
Subject: Re: Do you recognize this smiths mark?
Date: Feb 9, 2016 12:10 PM

Hello Scott,

Thanks for reaching out to the Metal Museum. It is similar to Googerty's mark, but like the later example in the thread, our examples of Googerty's work have the mark in a circle, not a square. I don't recognize this particular mark. I've asked around to our resident artists and other metal smiths associated with the Museum and if I hear anything else back, I will certainly let you know.

Best,

Grace Stewart
Collections and Exhibitions Manager

374 Metal Museum Dr.
Memphis, TN 38106
www.metalmuseum.org


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