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jprice33

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2006 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jprice33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For nearly 20 years, I have been a member of a Fantasy Baseball league with primarily members of my Family..

Growing up in Southern Cal with Silver Dealers for Uncles & Grandparents, we bonded and competed by means of Steve Garvey Home Runs, Rickey Henderson Stolen Bases & Nolan Ryan Strikeouts..

My Grandmother was a big Dodgers fan and could be found with her portable radio listening to Vin Scully while matching up someone's Salad Forks or Dinner Knives by combing through dealer lists..

Although there were no prizes given to the winner each year, the value of being named Champion drove everyone hard..

When the banter became too much for working conditions, my oldest Uncle would break up the fun by having one of us "bust up knives" in the back alley, or sort a new box of Sterling that just arrived..

Along the way we stumbled upon a Trophy and someone had a crude engraving done that reads MLB CHAMPION..

Every year the winner of the MLB League gets the honor of keeping the trophy..

It's not of any value, rarely sees polish & no-one has never bothered to research the marks..

Represented the one piece of Silver amongst us Baseball Fans that was not a commodity & turned out to have the most value of all..

Proud to say that I keep the Trophy this year!!

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I'd love to see other Trophies and their Stories..

Jason

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 02-15-2006 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice story. Congratulations on getting to keep the trophy this year.

Its not really our story but many years ago June and I got to know a trophy collector. She was most interested in golf, tennis, sailing and other country club type trophies. Since no one then (or now) really had an appreciation for old engraved trophies, she could fine them for very little money. Most often they were silver plate and occasionally sterling. In a very short period of time and for very little money she had put together a reasonable collection and then stopped buying.

A few years later, she came to New York City for a visit. She was staying at one of those private member clubs that has guest rooms for visiting members. She then invited us to dinner at yet another very private NYC club. During dinner we asked about her trophy collection she said it was gone. Then she went on to explain that her commendations and this diner wouldn’t have been possible were it not for the trophies. We didn’t understand.

She explained; when she stopped buying the trophies that was when the real work began. She began researching the country clubs and the members mentioned on the trophies. We immediately guessed that she had found an early trophy won by someone like JFK but she hadn’t. At least not on that level of nation celebrity.

What she had done was research the country clubs and then prioritized them by their “associations” with other prestigious clubs around the country. Next she would research the members names on the trophies. Often members were deceased distinguished legacy members of the country club community. She would then make contact with key club management, club members of the family and do historical interviews about the period/event mentioned on the trophy. She would put all this together into a presentation. Making sure the presentation materials (i.e. photos, newspaper clipping, etc) were mounted such that they could easily transition to a display case.

After wowing them with her presentation, she would offer to trade the trophies and materials for a life time membership. Apparently since she usually lived in another state and would hardly ever be around, it was an easy trade.

She does use her new memberships when traveling at “sister/brother” clubs to which her country clubs has visiting membership arrangements.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 02-15-2006 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was just pointed out to me that I have told this story before (only shorter). I guess its true... June says I suffer from “CRS” (“can’t remember .... stuff”). smile

Here are some other links to threads about trophies:

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2006 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always found trophies to be one of the more fascinating silver things. Over the years, I sold lots of them. Most were silverplate and did not bring much. They were usually in poor shape, indicating that plated trophies did not receive a great deal of silver.

The most memorable one was a Tufts or Pairpoint Aesthetic Movement chicking sexing trophy won in the Midwest in the 1870's. I hated to see that one go.

There are many interesting and fascinating trophies out there.

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-17-2006 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the most interesting aspects of trophies, for me, is that they are often dated. Dating specific makers marks becomes much easier, certainly for countries where there was no usage of date letters. Only, a lot of silver dealers tend to polish out the inscriptions, which in my view takes away the history of the object. Here a nice deco example of a trophy: the 1920-30 were the golden age of silver trophies!

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FredZ

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iconnumber posted 02-17-2006 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I interviewed an Industrial Arts instructor who hosted John Pontus Petterson. Petterson told him that when he was working for Robert R. Jarvie, they made a trophy for a client and when it was near completion they realized it did not meet the weight required by the client. They had to solder on a large block of silver to the base before presenting it.

The instructor did not remember who the trophy was for and I wish I could verify if this story is true.

Fred

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doc

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iconnumber posted 02-20-2006 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to confess that ever since reading your story, Scott, I have been looking at trophies differently!

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wev
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iconnumber posted 02-20-2006 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I once found a Shreve's silverplate trophy at the Goodwill. It was a bit tatty, but of nice form. It was engraved, quite elegantly,

"Second Best Bottom / Pageant of Beauty / San Francisco / 1928"

Made a lovely birthday present for a matron (of similar vintage) I know there.

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jprice33

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iconnumber posted 02-22-2006 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jprice33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks WEV..images may have violated SSF guidelines here!!

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doc

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iconnumber posted 02-23-2006 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wev, based on your recent postings, it would appear that your neighborhood Goodwill is a veritable treasure trove!

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-23-2006 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wev, I wonder what they gave the "bottom",... 1928, just before the great depression. A price truely fit to the epoch!

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 04-08-2017 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Tiffany & Co.
Loving Cup

Date: 1897
Place: New York/United States
Medium: silver, copper, niello, horn
Measurements: H. 14 7/8 in. (37.8 cm),
Diam. rim: 10 3/4 in. (27.3 cm),
Diam. base: 8 5/8 in. (21.9 cm);
gross weight: 219 oz
Accession No: 2001.16

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