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sonababy Posts: 14 |
posted 04-28-2018 02:11 AM
  
A friend of mine got six forks that appear to be silver. At the top of each fork handle there is an E with a C cutting into it. These letters appear to be on the armour of a knight, but I am not sure of the image. Below the armour is the word 'SERVIMUS'. Here is a picture - IMG_20180428_014155.jpg [Please properly introduce yourself & your friend, as requested in the box above. Please properly post photos. see: How to Post Photos] Sorry it isn't very clear. I can take it again if need be. One possibility is a silversmith from Malta named Emidio Critien, but I do not know the origin of the forks. Can you please help identify them? IP: Logged |
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sonababy Posts: 14 |
posted 04-28-2018 02:27 PM
2 more pictures of the fork - IMG_20180428_140830.jpg IMG_20180428_140042.jpg I have spent a lot of time searching the internet but have no leads. On each of the 6 forks, the right leg of the 'M' in the word 'SERVIMUS' is closer to the 'U' than the other letters are to their adjacent letters. In other words, the spacing of all letters is better than the spacing between the 'M' and the 'U'. IP: Logged |
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sonababy Posts: 14 |
posted 04-28-2018 02:38 PM
I have posted about 5 items before, that is why I did not introduce myself again. My name is Sue. I enjoy researching things, so am helping a friend who is not much of a collector. I am not sure what I have done wrong in posting the pictures. My sincere apologies, if the posting is not as per your guidelines. Please let me know and I will correct. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 04-28-2018 02:51 PM
It's been nearly a year and now you are asking for someone else. Why are they asking. Why don't they join the forums? You once properly posted photos. Perhaps you have forgotten. [How to Post Photos & How to Post Photos using the Silver Salon Forums Photo Gallery] IP: Logged |
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sonababy Posts: 14 |
posted 04-29-2018 12:24 PM
My friend, Andrea, is not internet savvy so I offered to help. Here are the BBCode (Normal) for the images - Thanks for your help. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 04-29-2018 12:55 PM
Are there maker's marks photos? If American marks then these might be from the college dinning hall of Ecclesia College. Or perhaps another ecclesiastical college somewhere in the world? IP: Logged |
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sonababy Posts: 14 |
posted 04-29-2018 01:25 PM
Thanks for replying, Scott. I have looked carefully. There are no other marks. The forks are fairly heavy but plain looking. The image could be a school logo. Were silver utensils used in college dining halls? Would have been expensive.. I have a great deal of fun researching these items...it is like an old mystery. Have searched the internet again, after your reponse but haven't found anything about this. [This message has been edited by sonababy (edited 04-29-2018).] IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 04-29-2018 02:05 PM
Think silver plate ... hotelware. IP: Logged |
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sonababy Posts: 14 |
posted 04-29-2018 08:25 PM
My friend had shown the forks to someone who buys and sells silver. Sad to say that he scraped the side of one fork and claimed it to be silver. He was willing to buy them from her and had asked how much she wanted for them, but she didn't want to sell. If you think of anything else about the origin of the forks, please let me know. Thanks. IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 05-03-2018 10:32 AM
The EC in the shield surmounted by the helmet and the ribbon beneath with the word SERVIMUS is not a maker's marking or hallmark or such. It is simply an added engraving of an emblem that belongs to the owners of these. It is similar to putting your initials on your silverware, except this appears to be something that would belong to a school or a restaurant or other organization. The word SERVIMUS is Latin and it translates as "We Serve". This would be the motto of the organization that had these forks engraved with their emblem. Given the motto of We Serve my guess is that it is not from a hotel or railroad or ship or such. My guess is that given the service to others motif in the motto it may be more likely to be from either an ecclesiastical school or a military unit but I am not sure it will be possible to come up with anything specific unless you are very lucky. And yes, most colleges and military units and other organizations do have tableware with their emblems engraved on them. Generally they are used on special occasions or when they are entertaining important guests and want to make a good impression. Given there are no other markings my guess is the same as Scott's that these are not solid silver but rather silver plated. And scratching the surface will not tell you if they are silver plated unless you gouge the metal deeply to get down past the surface layers and into the metal inside. Otherwise the silver on the surface of plated items will simply prove to be silver which is what silver plate is all about. [This message has been edited by Kimo (edited 05-04-2018).] IP: Logged |
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sonababy Posts: 14 |
posted 05-06-2018 11:24 AM
Thank you very much for your insight and help, Scott and Kimo. IP: Logged |
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