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Allen1853

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2018 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Allen1853     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi.

Thank you for letting me post.

I have six very nice silver knife rests marked reverse 40 (H)(A)(E). The 40 is in a font I associate with Eastern Europe or Russia. They are hand engraved at each end "M" and "S". I have seen 40 used as a mark in Germany for 40 grams of silver per 12 pieces.

I have spent many hours trying to pin these down without success.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2018 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you copy the BB Code line in the photo section your pictures will appear in you post.

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Allen1853

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2018 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Allen1853     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ahwt:
If you copy the BB Code line in the photo section your pictures will appear in you post.

Thanks. I think I fixed it.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 09-27-2018 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome.

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Allen1853

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2018 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Allen1853     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My name is Allen L. Cannon. I live in Miami Florida. I am an attorney. I buy and sell antique silver and plate. I successfully research most of my items. These knife rests have me stumped. Looking forward to the answer. Thanks!

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 09-27-2018 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this business research?

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Allen1853

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iconnumber posted 09-27-2018 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Allen1853     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scott Martin:
Is this business research?

These are knife rests that have me stumped. I have spent hours at all the silver sites and on Face Book pages trying to figure them out. I have visited this forum many times and saw people here who were very knowledgeable and helpful. To the extent this is "business research" I have spent many hours just to satisfy my personal curiosity.

Here are more photo; the intricate hand engraved S and M initials on each end and some flaking on one near the mark evidencing the fact they are plated.

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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 09-28-2018 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I looked through my books and can't find anything... my guess is plate.

H A E - could that be something like Hall And Elkington or another company? Wild guess.

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Allen1853

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iconnumber posted 09-28-2018 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Allen1853     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cbc58:
I looked through my books and can't find anything... my guess is plate.

H A E - could that be something like Hall And Elkington or another company? Wild guess.


Thank you for looking. Yes, I am positive they are plate, perhaps more like Sheffield than electro but do not know.

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 09-29-2018 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Allen, hi. I am guessing here but I think you hit on it, the 40 is about the plating, since there is no 800 or Loth mark. The chance of finding anything out about plated ware is slim.

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Allen1853

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iconnumber posted 09-29-2018 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Allen1853     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by agleopar:
Allen, hi. I am guessing here but I think you hit on it, the 40 is about the plating, since there is no 800 or Loth mark. The chance of finding anything out about plated ware is slim.

They are DEFINITELY plate. But they are incredibly well made and attractive. I have spent enough time running down rabbit holes to know the chance of finding info on these is slim. That is why I finally decided to enlist the experts here. If no one here knows I feel better about my own research abilities. Thank you for allowing me to post.

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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 09-29-2018 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are attractive but the problem with plate is that there is so much and at the same time less documentation because few have made the effort like they have with sterling to record the companies. That means that few here have any info, especially if it’s continental.
There are 2 regulars who may be able to help if they see the post both are familiar with that part of the world but I’m not sure they can help either.

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