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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 06-01-2003 01:29 PM
  
A question by Vathek in another post, buried at the end of a very long thread, and seemingly unrelated to that topic:
quote: The Sun in Splendor is a representation of the sun, containing a human face, and surrounded by emanating rays (the "splendor"). Classically the rays are alternately straight and wavy, symbolizing the giving of light and heat. Most people are familiar with it as it appears commonly on sundials, and in old engravings. As a heraldic device, it is a charge emblazoned in the arms of a number families, and if appropriate, can appear as a crest engraved on silver as a mark of ownership in lieu of the owner's initials. [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 06-01-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Arg(um)entum Posts: 304 |
posted 06-01-2003 01:47 PM
Call me slow if you wish but I still don't understand its significance as a category of marks that gets a column right alongside townmark, maker, duty, etc. Can you help me along, please? IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 06-01-2003 01:56 PM
I couldn't find the post this question was refering to. Heraldic symbols were ofetn adopted as makers marks and town marks in earlier days. Where do these marks appear? IP: Logged |
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Stephen Posts: 625 |
posted 06-01-2003 04:41 PM
What are you talking about? Unknown age of silver teaspoons IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 06-01-2003 05:07 PM
Yes, that post. Apparently I don't know what anybody is talking about. That thread is where Vathek's question first appeared. The original question refers to a "mark." MW's question seems to imply that the original question referred to a particular hallmark, which would mean that it must have been shown or described somewhere that I couldn't find among the posts in that thread. I had assumed it was an original question referring to heraldic crests on English silver, my answer to which doesn't seem to fit MW's expectations. Could the question as it appears now be incomplete? Maybe you can straighten it out.  [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 06-01-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Arg(um)entum Posts: 304 |
posted 06-01-2003 05:42 PM
Its in Unknown age of silver teaspoons in doobee's post of 05-30-2003 08:04 AM which I interpret as being an extract from Jackson, a source that I have not graduated to yet. IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 06-01-2003 05:55 PM
That's got it. Apparently his question was incomplete, and with 24 postings to reread in the thread I didn't bother to examine her table. She photographed the gold table instead of the one for silver. The sun was the standard mark for 22 K gold. That mark was dropped after a few years because of some (heraldic?) conflict (somebody apparently objected to its use for that purpose)in favor of another with no such implications. I'm glad that's settled. [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 06-01-2003).] IP: Logged |
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