Old Tankard - SMP Silver Salon Forums

SM Publications

Silver Salon Forums - The premier site for discussing Silver.

SMP | Silver Salon Forums | SSF - Guidelines | SSF - FAQ | Silver Sales

Welcome to the Silver Salon Forums !
Since 1993
Over 11,793 threads & 64,769 posts !!

New members' post here Forum

The Silver Salon Forums are open to anyone with an interest in silver and a willingness to share. Know little or nothing about silver? Don't worry! Anyone with a genuine desire to explore the subject of silver and related metal crafts is welcome.

To successfully join in,
you must know the following !!
click here

Favorites:^(9/09/07) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

REGISTER (click here)

How to Post Photos

SMP Silver Salon Forums
tline

New members post here
tline3

Old Tankard

profile | register | preferences | faq | search

SSFFriend: Email This Page to Someone!

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Author	Topic: Old Tankard
Mihmar Posts: 4 Registered: Jun 2018	posted 06-19-2018 12:37 PM Hello: Can anyone tell me more about this tankard. It has been in my grandmother's family some time. It is silver not pewter. It is hallmarked on the bottom "C. R. & Co.". Does the distinctive handle and/or the decoration around the base date it? What is the strange tarnishing around the mongram and the handle (it has been there as long as I have had it and that is forty years near enough). Many thanks, M! [This message has been edited by Mihmar (edited 06-21-2018).] IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 06-20-2018 08:35 AM We used the Gallery to rotate and properly post one of your images... please do the others. IP: Logged
asheland Posts: 935 Registered: Nov 2003	posted 06-20-2018 10:34 AM Interesting piece, I'd like to see the hallmarks and perhaps the bottom of the tankard. Welcome to the forums! IP: Logged
Mihmar Posts: 4 Registered: Jun 2018	posted 06-21-2018 09:27 AM Here is the base with the hallmark. IP: Logged
asheland Posts: 935 Registered: Nov 2003	posted 06-21-2018 10:18 AM Nice piece! In my opinion, the monogram looks 1820ish. The hallmarks are hard to see however. Can you do a close-up of them? IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 06-21-2018 01:16 PM this might help: IP: Logged
vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 06-22-2018 09:11 AM If C P & CO are the only marks it's probably silverplate. Are you sure there are no other marks? IP: Logged
Mihmar Posts: 4 Registered: Jun 2018	posted 06-23-2018 04:44 AM Yes. This is definitely the only mark. I have taken another photo which is a bit clearer. I have a very good camera but it is not brilliant with macro photography and it doesn't help I have to reduce the size to post in the forum gallery. I make it out to be "C. F. and Co." or possibly E. Is there any such firm known? I am not that bothered whether it is made of solid silver or not. I always thought it was my grandmother's grandfather's but his initials were "JBH" and he did use the B so it seemed strange that the pot would not have it. But he was born in 1861 and the dating according to the monogram would now suggest it was made probably for his grandfather (his father Henry Harvey being born in 1819). Fascinating that it has probably been in the family so long. Any more details on the maker would be great to have. Also, can anyone explain the strange differences in colour around the monogram and the space around the handle? Has the silverplate worn through there? And why would it wear like that? Any thing I can do to restore it? [This message has been edited by Mihmar (edited 06-23-2018).] IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 06-23-2018 09:13 AM The colors may just be tarnish that has formed over the years. I would give the tankard a polish with something like Wright's Silver Cream. You might start with the bottom to see how it polishes and if you like it continue with the whole cup. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 06-23-2018 10:06 AM Remember polishing Silver or silverplate removes silver. Remove too much from silverplae then you have exposed the base metal. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 08-08-2018 09:51 AM quote: via email Date: 2018-08-08 05:59 To: SilverSalonForums@smpub.com Hello: I made a second post on your forum (Paper Knife). Again, by the time I got the precise niceties of posting a photo right most people probably clicked it, couldn't see anything and moved on. Now, it seems silly season has opened on and a couple of rather stupid off topic posts have appeared. Can you please remove these? Very disappointed that apparently nobody on your forum can tell me anything about the precise Dublin silver maker I asked about. My post on the silver tankard (Old Tankard) at least got an informative and interesting response concerning the date of the monogram. Yours, Mihmar We are glad you were able to finally learn how to properly post photos, especially since it will help you in your quest for info. Perhaps members would be more engaging if you had paid attention to To successfully join in, you must know the following !! and introduced yourself, told us about your interests in silver and why you are inquiring. As the Guidelines point out ... it can take time for answers to develop. Keeping us posted about your progress/efforts can also help to refresh the questions. IP: Logged
Kimo Posts: 1627 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 08-13-2018 08:15 PM The style of your silver plated tankard and the initials of the company that made it on the bottom are not of much help in dating it. Likely your best bet at dating is to identify the person in your family with that monogram which you have now done. As for the difference in colors on the metal, it is possible that this is just tarnish, or another possibility is that people sometimes tired of polishing their things and they did one "last" polishing and then painted their things with laquer or varnish or such to seal out the air and prevent the metal from tarnishing. Over the decades, though such coatings often wear through or get rubbed off and you wind up with an object that has such a coating on some areas and not other areas resulting in the metal looking different. Or the third possibility with silver plated objects such as this tankard is that over the many decades of use and polishing that the thin layer of silver has worn through in some areas and not others resulting in the metal looking different in some areas compared to others. IP: Logged

All times are ET	next newest topic \| next oldest topic
Administrative Options: Close Topic \| Archive/Move \| Delete Topic
	Hop to:

Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a

^1. Public Silver Forums (open Free membership) - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. Once you have received your Silver Salon Forum password, and then if you abide by the Silver Salon Forum Guidelines, you may start a thread or post a reply in the New Members' Forum. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
Click here to Register for a Free password

^2. Private Silver Salon Forums (invitational or $ donation membership) - The Private Silver Salon Forums require registration and special authorization to view, search, start a thread or to post a reply. Special authorization can be obtained in one of several ways: by Invitation; Annual $ Donation; or via Special Limited Membership. For more details click here (under development).

^3. Administrative/Special Private Forums (special membership required) - These forums are reserved for special subjects or administrative discussion. These forums are not open to the public and require special authorization to view or post.

| Home | Order | The Guide to Evaluating Gold & Silver Objects | The Book of Silver