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JuJuBee

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iconnumber posted 11-02-2003 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JuJuBee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have several silver pieces for which I have questions, but I will start with my most curious.

To begin, I know VERY little about silver and hallmarks, but I'm getting there.

I have two pieces in front of me that were purchased at an auction years ago. They are both engraved with flowers or leaves, triangles and fine lines. The first is a silver (pewter?) port glass and the marks are very small. I can make out what I think is a knight on a horse over 1879 over 84. The second looks very similar to the first and is a very small (2"across and 1-1/4 h.) three footed bowl. It also has the knight on a horse with 84 and something over 1890. I also see a NE3 and the N is backwards.

I do not have any pictures and they probably wouldn't show up if I could take photos because they are so small.

Does anyone have any information on any of these marks? Who could I contact to have all my silver pieces appraised (I live near Milwaukee)? Any other advice would be so welcomed.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 11-03-2003 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both item 1 & 2 sound Russian.

Posting a closeup photo of the marks is always helpful.

To request information about an professional appraiser in your area, go to here.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 11-03-2003 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The letter that looks like a backwards 'N' is probably the Cyrilic letter that sounds like 'I' in Ivan. The 'E' is pronounced 'ye', the 3 is the 'z' sound. These three letters are most likely the name of the maker: first name, patronymic, family name.

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JuJuBee

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iconnumber posted 11-03-2003 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JuJuBee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Scott and Dale. You have helped me tremendously. Didn't even think the marks could be another language - big duh!

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 08-04-2006 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although this is an old post, I felt it could benefit from some cross-referencing with other posts which discuss the same maker, ИЕЗ.

Please see the threads Russian help and russian/polish vodka cup kakoshnik.

In these above threads, the mark is identified as that of Игор Завяновь (Igor Zavyanov), a prolific Kiev (Ukraine) maker.

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